The Antidote to Burnout Isn't Rest — It's Play
The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show
Chase Jarvis
4.8 • 649 Ratings
🗓️ 1 October 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Hey friends, Chase here.
I'm writing you today from the south of France, where I've been taking a little breather before a busy fall. This episode is a reflection on some of the most popular questions that came up around the launch of Never Play It Safe. In the particular lies the universal — and the questions from our community reflect challenges so many of us face.
Burnout, Side Hustles & Tiny Experiments
Matt asked about starting a coaching/consulting side hustle. My answer? Don't try to solve everything from the couch. Start small. Run tiny experiments. Serve people by solving the problems you've already solved for yourself.
From there, Dylan jumped in with a question about making a film project with a comedian friend. We dug into what it means to treat creative collaborations like real businesses — agreements, responsibilities, financing, and the all-important element of play.
Here's what we get into in the episode:
- Side hustles that stick: why solving your own past problems makes you a better coach or consultant
- Tiny experiments: the fastest way to test ideas and get real data instead of planning forever
- Collaboration as play: how operating agreements and clear roles keep partnerships fun instead of frustrating
- Burnout recovery: why rediscovering play is the antidote to grazing through work like a cow instead of hunting like a lion
The big idea? The best way forward isn't overthinking — it's showing up, experimenting, and rediscovering play in the process.
Until next time—stay playful, stay curious, and keep creating.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. What's up? It's Chase. Welcome to the episode of the show. Grateful to be in your ears. I'm coming to you today from the south of France. |
| 0:12.7 | Taking a little time away from the States and a little R&R, mostly preparing for the fall where I love to get a lot of work done and specifically work |
| 0:22.5 | in serving you in the creative community there. |
| 0:25.6 | Today's episode is a reflection on some popular questions that I get from the community |
| 0:31.7 | as a part of launching my last book and creating the community around that launch. |
| 0:36.9 | I had the good fortune of taking |
| 0:38.0 | in a bunch of very popular questions, which is one of the reasons I thought, what is it? |
| 0:41.3 | Again, in the particular lies, the universal. |
| 0:44.7 | So took a few questions from the community. |
| 0:46.6 | That's you and these are some of the most popular ones. |
| 0:49.4 | We talk in this episode about tiny experiments, right? |
| 0:53.0 | The fastest way to test your ideas and find traction, |
| 0:57.0 | whether that's in your own work, in the marketplace, uh, launching a product, getting traction |
| 1:02.0 | in the next chapter of your life. It's all the same. It's about how to get unstuck or |
| 1:06.1 | avoid getting stuck in the planning process. We talk about how and why solving your own past problems. |
| 1:13.1 | It makes you a better creator. |
| 1:16.1 | It makes you a better entrepreneur. |
| 1:17.9 | An example there is your best position. |
| 1:21.0 | This is a great quote from my friend, Roy Vaden, your best position to serve the person that |
| 1:26.0 | you once were. |
| 1:28.9 | I believe deeply in that. That's one of the reasons I turned to the internet to help shine a light on the photography processes that I was going |
| 1:33.8 | to, then doing the same with Creative Live and etc. You can see how that played out. We also talk in this |
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