The anti-Trump Pope?
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🗓️ 14 May 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Last week, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost became Pope Leo XIV, the first American chosen to lead the Catholic Church. In the weeks running up to his election, he openly criticised the Trump administration’s immigration policy and even had a row with Vice President JD Vance on X. Does this suggest that President Trump may be in for a bumpy ride from the world’s other most powerful American?
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Guest: Christopher Hale, Democratic politician from Tennessee and Catholic nonprofit executive.
Host: Manveen Rana.
Producer: Edith Rousselot.
Further reading:
- The real Pope Leo XIV — by those who knew him in Rome, Chicago and Peru
- Who is Robert Prevost? New Pope hit out at Trump administration weeks ago
Clips: Bloomberg, Reuters, Rome Reports in English Youtube, CBS News, EWTN Global Catholic Network, Khou 11, Guardian News.
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| 0:30.7 | From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. |
| 0:39.5 | I'm Manvine Rana. |
| 0:43.4 | A week ago, all eyes and all cameras were on one ancient square in the heart of the Vatican. |
| 0:52.6 | I was looking to St. Peter's Square. |
| 0:55.8 | There's those beautiful colonnades that hugged the world. |
| 0:59.0 | And when that white smoke came, the eruption of the crowd was like something I had never felt before. |
| 1:06.9 | You feel the surge. |
| 1:08.9 | You shook up there. |
| 1:10.5 | In fact, you could see all Rome come running towards the square. |
| 1:16.3 | What happened here was just a flood of emotions. |
| 1:20.0 | And religious or not, everyone in that square felt that surge of energy. |
| 1:25.5 | It was something that you could feel viscerally in your heart, |
| 1:29.1 | in your bones. And so it was just a remarkable moment. The excitement was unspeakable. |
| 1:37.3 | A new Pope had been elected. As the crowds watched, a cardinal in flowing red robes came out onto the balcony of St Peter's Basilica |
| 1:47.4 | to announce the name of the new Pope. |
| 1:51.5 | Anuncio you, Godium manium. |
| 1:57.8 | Abemus Papam. |
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