The anti-McCarthy faction teases a shadow speaker

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🗓️ 23 December 2022

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Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.) and his allies are trying to end Kevin McCarthy’s reign as leader of the House Republicans. Good is one of five Republicans in the far-right Freedom Caucus vowing to block McCarthy’s path to the 218 votes needed to become Speaker of the House. The two have a history. In 2020, Good was running for Congress to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District. Incidentally, also home to the race between James Madison and James Monroe to be the district’s first representative in Congress. Madison won. While Good was running for Congress, Kevin McCarthy tried to consolidate power in the Republican House conference on his way to becoming Speaker. During his campaign, Good knocked out one of McCarthy’s loyal member’s at the GOP nominating convention. At a private meeting recently, Good and McCarthy had a heated exchange about events at the time. On this episode of Playbook Deep Dive, Playbook co-author Rachael Bade went to the Hill to meet Good at his office and dig for details on the history of his relationship with McCarthy and whom Good and his allies intended to support for Speaker instead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	There's a lot of research showing that humans tend to remember the sting of a personal
0:06.0	slight, more vividly, than the happiness of a personal favor.
0:12.6	And that's certainly true in politics.
0:15.7	Take the case of Kevin McCarthy and Bob Good.
0:19.5	He has a trust gap with most of the conference, even those who are supporting him will privately
0:24.8	tell you they know he's untrustworthy that he doesn't keep his word.
0:28.3	I'm Ryan Liza and this is Playbook Deep Dive.
0:31.9	McCarthy is the Republican House leader who faces a vote on January 3rd to become the
0:37.6	speaker in the new Congress.
0:40.4	Good is a congressman from Virginia and one of five Republicans in the far right freedom
0:45.4	caucus vowing to block McCarthy's path to 218 votes.
0:50.9	As you're about to hear in this fascinating interview with Representative Good, by
0:54.8	my playbook colleague Rachel Bade, I'm Rachel Bade, welcome to Playbook Deep Dive.
1:00.6	McCarthy and the congressman got off to a bad start.
1:05.4	In 2020, Good was working as the associate athletics director at Liberty University in
1:10.1	Virginia.
1:11.3	Kevin McCarthy was trying to consolidate power in the Republican House conference on his
1:16.0	way to one day becoming speaker.
1:19.4	And then Good took out one of McCarthy's loyal members at the GOP nominating convention
1:25.2	in Virginia's 5th district.
1:28.5	And a private meeting recently, Good and McCarthy had a heated back and forth about what
1:34.1	happened next.
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