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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

The Anti-Greed Gospel: Money, Racism, and the Church

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

For years, we've been told that racism is about hate. But what if it's actually about money? Like… a lot of money? Esau McCaulley sits down with Dr. Malcolm Foley—historian, author, and expert on racial violence—to break down how greed, not just racism, has been running the show all along. From lynchings as economic control to modern capitalism's obsession with exploitation, we follow the money and ask: Why does nobody preach about greed? What did Ida B. Wells figure out that we keep ignoring? And how did Frederick Douglass have better jokes about injustice than we do now?

 

Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money Is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward by Malcolm Foley: https://a.co/d/aMG5CNy

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0:00.0

PASSION IN MY

0:07.0

Passion in my pockets where my pennies should be

0:10.0

where they selling is cheap so I'm buying that this freedom is free

0:13.0

I've been becoming me see when Jesus taking the lead with purpose I bleed

0:17.0

and riles like doing under the heat defeat is a never

0:20.0

you can't reattach with a sever what's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your

0:24.3

treasure when storm is your weather know that it gets worse for it's better

0:31.4

Hello everyone welcome to the Easton McCauley podcast. I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. And on today's podcast, we have my friend and author, scholar, PhD. What's your special title at Baylor? Just boss? What is it? No, not boss. It's close. You work for somebody. I don't work for the boss. I work for the boss. I work for the boss. I'm special advisor to the president for equity and campus engagement. I'm sorry. I know on these streets. I know. I don't have equity in your job title anymore. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm all right. I'm all right. Okay, okay.

1:11.4

I just know. I've been in these streets just blaming everything on diversity and equity and inclusion. As you should. My wife would like, why do you take out the trash? Is DEI what I'm doing? D.I. My kids are like, will you read us a book? Can't read a book. Dei, man. Nah, man.

1:27.4

Sorry.

1:28.7

It's real bad.

1:29.7

Now, I don't want to make light.

1:31.1

I don't make... My kid's like, will you read us a book? Can't read a book? Do you? Man, man. Sorry.

1:28.9

It's real bad.

1:29.7

Now, I don't want to make light.

1:31.1

I don't make, like, you know what?

1:32.7

I do want to make light.

1:33.6

You know, one of the things I've been reading about, and we're going to get to your book in a minute. But one of the things I've been thinking a lot about as I've looked at the last two or three weeks, I've been thinking about Frederick Douglas.

1:44.7

Maybe because Frederick Douglass is my hero.

1:45.9

Everybody has to be hero.

1:47.3

Ida B.

1:47.6

Willis is your hero. I've looked at the last two or three weeks. I've been thinking about Frederick Douglass.

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