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The Next Level

The Anti-Cheneys (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Plus: Russian operatives and Nazi historians.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there. It's JVL. On the secret show with Bill Crystal today, not Sarah Longwell, but Bill Crystal. We talked about Liz Cheney and then the anti-Chaney's, which are the people who actually decided that they wanted to start supporting Donald Trump after January 6th.

0:15.6

That's a whole thing.

0:17.0

We talked about the Russian disinformation campaign run with a bunch of conservative

0:21.7

youtubers.

0:23.5

Talked about Tucker and the Nazi historian.

0:25.9

We talked about Kamala debate prep.

0:28.7

It's the whole thing.

0:29.9

Here's the show. The show. I want to talk briefly about Liz Cheney because this is the week if she said

0:40.0

she's going to vote for Kamala Harris.

0:42.9

I feel the need every time we talk about Liz Cheney

0:45.3

to reiterate that I was wrong about her,

0:49.7

and that when Liz Cheney began to move against Trump following January 6th, I was deeply skeptical.

0:58.8

And I was just like, what does she want a cookie?

1:00.8

She was there for all, you know, she was there in 2016. She was there, voted for him in 2020. Did she not see the thing? And I, I couldn't have been more wrong about her and this is, I mean, she is like the bow ideal of what you want from a person of a

1:18.9

real conscience which is that she's been she realizes that she was wrong about Trump,

1:25.0

and she is trying to make amends on that and fight the good fight and is willing to do so at great personal cost.

1:32.0

And I just think it's so impressive and and I misjudged her and you know I

1:38.9

She doesn't care she isn't she has no idea who I am

1:41.6

That's not true. She's. But I feel bad about it.

1:44.0

And I talk to her.

1:46.0

She's an extremely diligent of attentive reader and fewer of full work,

1:52.0

of all matters full work.

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