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Cancel any time, tease and sees apply. Hello and welcome to Rational Security, the anthrax is in the mail edition.

I'm Shane Harris in the mail edition.

I'm Shane Harris of the Daily Beast and this is an historic day on this podcast

because usually this podcast is very brookings heavy and that two of my three special guests and my friend my co-host really

always from Brookings but today not so but I am joined as always by my friend

Benbletus of Brookings hey and lawfare and also by my special guest my compatriot my partner in crime my

reporting buddy Nancy Youssef of the Daily Beast.

Hello hello hello.

Hi. Now it's the daily beast heavy.

Right, so it's the first time that daily beast people outnumber Brookings people.

That's right.

Absolutely rational security.

I'm, let me just put it, we're still in Brookings space. So you guys can outnumber me, but you can't attack me.

We cannot outnumber the building. Exactly. Exactly. Well, welcome Nancy. Thank you very much for being here.

Our special guests.

And Nancy, I don't actually usually work in the same office during today because you're in the Pentagon

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