You're listening to the God Center Mom podcast with me Heather McPhagnan.

As the mom of four young boys, I know motherhood's hard.

Sometimes I think I make it harder than it needs to be.

By putting myself in the center of things or even my kids, I forget

to place God there and be led by His Spirit. I also tend to forget that I'm surrounded by God.

He goes before me, he walks with me on the hard days, and he comes behind

me when I make a mistake. So each week I'll interview someone new and we'll discuss what it means

to be a God Center mom. Thanks for listening.

Hey y'all, welcome to the God Center Mom podcast. I am so excited, and I think I say that every single

podcast, but this time I'm extra excited. I have a fun new guest and I know I've interviewed my mom and I

interviewed my dad and my husband and we've gone beyond that to some friends and even Tricia Goyer and author but y'all today I'm inviting

We need like a drum roll or something big time.

I was reminded the other day,

New York Times Best Selling Author.

That seems really big, really big.

New York Times Best Selling Author, Melanie Shankle, to the show and well Melanie just welcome

thank you Heather thank you that still seems like a fake introduction to me it

does but you know why it even I can say it like in a funny way because you don't act that way you don't I just love your humility is so

Awesome. It truly is your sweet. I'm still waiting on my special jacket

you're supposed to get. You know, I thought you were going to get like a green jacket or something

and you made that club. Yeah. You need a patch for your members only one.

Exactly.

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