Hey, it's Deconversion Therapy. It's your post-Easter. You get to relax. We're not going to tell you about trauma episode. And I am up here in Tennessee, and that is my life partner down there.

Okay, the person talking is Karen.

This is Bonnie down in Florida.

And here's the real truth.

We're recording on Easter morning.

We are naughty.

We don't have, yeah, we don't have new dresses on and we don't have panty hose on.

And we don't have to go to church.

That's right.

In fact, I wanted to tell you about something after I say, hey, find us on the socials.

Please review us. If you don't review us, I have review envy. I can't help it.

Okay. But I want to tell you something about Easter, because now I can say it, because this will come out after.

So I have two friends who are in this whole sort of deconstruction ex-Christian or ex-phangelical

area that I've known for a long time on the internet. And both of them were like, hey, I'm going to be in town this weekend. So what have I planned? The thing that better not fuck up.

They each don't know that we're going to meet at a vineyard. Well, they know we're going to meet

there. Brooks and Dunn, the old country group, Brooks started a really nice vineyard here in Tennessee with lots of music and all that.

So we're going to meet there, but they each don't know the other one is going to be there.

So I'm very excited.

So if you're listening to this, you've probably already seen the social media with Eve was framed.

If you're not following her, psh, go to, and the other is Kevin Garcia.

So I'm really excited. In fact, Kevin last night late sent me a text saying, okay, this is who i think it's going to be and he like listed

the people he thinks i'm bringing so you told him there was somebody else coming yes okay because i can

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