Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. I want to talk to you today about the And campaign.

The And campaign has been brought to my attention from multiple sources and I've waited to comment on this until today

because there were so many other things going on I thought I just really want to give

this the full treatment and I'm ready to do that now. The and campaign I believe and I'm going to just say this off the top is a dangerous

campaign to persuade evangelical voters I think to think in progressive terms and categories and ultimately to vote either for

Democrats or progressive Republicans who will say the same things that

Democrats are saying.

And I'm going to show you that as I walk through this.

The deception is that they market themselves

as very pro-life and pro-family,

and they try to merge those understandings

with progressive understandings on immigration

and health care and minimum wage, etc. etc.

So I'm going to walk through their purpose statement

and just show you what concerns me.

But first, let's look at this.

Who's behind the and campaign? This gives you know, this gives you a little bit of a sense of why I think this is important.

If we go up here and I click, if you're watching on the leadership.

You can go down, you can see Justin Gibboni,

who was a Democratic operative.

You can see, and I don't know all of these people in depth Michael Ware as well as ties to

Democratic politics and we're going to hear more about both of these men later on in the

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