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Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz | U.S. Supporting Israel: Robert Spencer & Dave Smith

Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

Matt Gaetz

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.24.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Is Israel justifying its goal of regime change in Iran with a supposed ‘denuclearization’ mission? To what extent should the U.S. be involved? Should the U.S. support Israel in taking out Iran’s Leadership? Director of Jihad Watch, Robert Spencer, faces off against “Part of the Problem Podcast” host Dave Smith in this ZeroHedge Debate. 


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0:00.0

Now it's time for the Anchorman podcast with Matt Gates and Dan Ball.

0:14.0

Good evening and welcome to the Anchorman podcast powered by One American News.

0:17.7

I'm Matt Gates, host of the Matt Gates Show. We're every weeknight,

0:21.0

nine eastern, six Pacific, and today we're doing something a little bit different. We've partnered

0:25.6

with Zero Hedge, a great website for their Zero Hedge Debates. Zero Hedge Debates bring

0:31.3

smart folks together to challenge conventional wisdom and discuss the major policy questions

0:35.4

of the day on digital platforms. Tonight, we ask this question.

0:39.9

Should the U.S. support Israel in taking out Iran's leadership?

0:44.5

Taking the affirmative in this debate is Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch.

0:49.1

Taking the negative is Dave Smith, host of Part of the Problem podcast.

0:53.7

I'm former Congressman Matt Gates. I'll be your

0:55.2

moderator. The zero hedge debates begin now. Each side has afforded a four-minute opening statement,

1:01.2

and we begin with Robert Spencer. Thanks, Matt. You know, obviously nobody wants to go to war with Iran.

1:09.0

The problem is, in all of these discussions that I'm seeing about this issue, nobody is actually talking about the fact that not just one side gets to decide whether the war will begin or not. And it may well be that Iran will attack the United States and it won't be up to anyone

1:31.0

whether we go in to fight Iran or not. At the same time, nobody is envisioning the kind of

1:40.4

quagmire that we had in Iraq and Afghanistan.

1:44.6

Nobody is talking about boots on the ground.

1:47.0

There is talk about regime change, but that's become a very charged term.

1:52.3

It doesn't necessarily mean some sort of wrong-headed, misguided, unfocused project to bring a political system to a people that

2:05.0

doesn't want it or understand it.

2:08.0

And so what we have in this situation is quite different.

2:12.1

The president, as a matter of fact, just today said that he was talking to Tucker Carlson and he said, are you okay with

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