Now it's time for the Anchorman podcast with Matt Gates and Dan Ball.

Welcome back to Anchorman. It was last week. We had an epic show with my good friend Steve Bannon. So you're going to want to check that out. It was our most successful

Anchorman to date. We went over politics and jail and how oddly the two go together. But tonight I am joined by my on again, off again employee, my one and only Indian guru. Vish Burra.

Vish was the founding producer of Steve Bannon's War Room.

He was a member of my congressional staff and the congressional staff of George Santos.

And now as a producer on the Matt Cates show.

So, Vish, we went mono and mono with Bannon last week. And as folks consult that episode, I thought maybe we could start out our conversation

tonight, kind of with your work for a guy who's one of the most influential yet mercurial

figures on the political right.

You were his producer, his driver.

Give us some Steve Bannon stories.

You know, I love my experience with Steve because I learned so much of the alternative

tactics or sort of these dark art tactics of how you deal with the media and how you

influence and how you get not just stories out there, but how you get certain frames around stories out there.

And one of the crystallized moments in my memories of working for Steve Bannon was when I was

driving him once to New York during the COVID pandemic.

I think it was around April.

So this is one of the first times we're even

getting out of the house to get go somewhere that wasn't, you know, the Washington, D.C.

Barracks or the war room. And I remember he was on the phone. He was taking phones,

the whole, taking phone calls, the whole ride up to New York. And it was a lot of phone calls with the media. Now, some of the people he was

talking to were conservative reporters, and some of them that he was talking to were liberal

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