Now it's time for the Anchorman podcast with Matt Gates and Dan Ball.

Welcome back to another episode of The Anchorman Show and I'm going to be having a conversation

today with one of my personal heroes. When I was in

Congress, there were so many who were trying to convince us that the administrative state, the FBI,

the Department of Justice, the intelligence community, they only had truth and right answers for us.

They were infallible. They could never be flawed or corrupted. And I really

believed when I was elected to Congress that those folks were the good guys. And we ought to give

them a great deal of deference. And what I learned is that here in Washington, D.C., every entity,

every appendage of government wants to grow stronger. And the way they grow stronger

is by helping their friends and harming their enemies. And we would like to think that certain

agencies would be above that. But sadly, what I learned is that many of those three-letter

agencies were the worst purveyors of politics at the expense of intelligence at the expense of the facts

and the law.

And so there was a dedicated group of people, and you know some of them, people like Jim

Jordan and Ron DeSantis and Mark Meadows and Devin Nunes.

But to ensure that all of us had the ability to ask the right questions and pursue the right

leads, there were dedicated members of the intelligence community staff. And you know one of them

a great deal now, Cash Patel, he's currently the director of the FBI, and he largely has that

position because he was able to show his chops in very challenging circumstances where he was being threatened by Rod Rosenstein.

He was being challenged by the likes of Paul Ryan in the national media.

But the truth has a way of winning.

And it was unleashed in those days in 2017 and now in light of so many of the disclosures we've had from Director of National

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