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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz

The Anchormen Show EP 143 - MK-ULTRA

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz

Matt Gaetz

News, News Commentary

4.44.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

The Anchormen dig into one of the darkest chapters in U.S. intelligence history: the CIA’s MK-Ultra program — where Americans were allegedly abducted, drugged with LSD, psychologically tortured, and used as human guinea pigs in the pursuit of mind control.

Was this just a rogue Cold War experiment, or did the CIA successfully create “programmed” operatives capable of carrying out acts — even assassinations — that ordinary people would never commit?

And the biggest question of all: did MK-Ultra ever really end?


Transcript

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0:00.0

Now it's time for the Anchorman podcast with Matt Gates and Pearson Sharp.

0:13.7

Welcome back to The Anchorman Show. I'm Matt Gates here with the terrific on-air talent

0:19.3

and investigative reporting analysis opinion team at One

0:23.3

American News, my frequent co-hosts, my buddy Pearson Sharp, Pearson, thanks for being here.

0:28.4

And the guy I get to hand the wheel to now every night at 10 p.m. for David Pollack prime time,

0:34.9

David, I'm so excited. It's going to be great having you right there chasing the Matt Gates show. Everybody's favorite 9 p.m. Opportunity for a little look at the news of the day. And Pearson, thanks so much for guest hosting. I really appreciate that. Yeah, my pleasure. I now know. He gets hosted for me too, yeah. I now know I am at best, the second best host of the Matt Gates show after watching

0:56.5

Pearson do such a terrific job.

0:58.9

No, but the audience loves it when you do it.

1:00.6

My only gripe with Pearson is that he will not guest host multiple days in a row because

1:07.4

he is an artist.

1:08.5

And he, we, he's put so much attention into every script and every research project that he's not a...

1:15.6

After this last experience, I think I'd be more comfortable doing that, you know, working with your team and just being thrown into the fire.

1:23.2

I think...

1:24.2

You like writing.

1:25.0

You really like the reading, rice?

1:26.5

I think that's what my audience loves the, you know, the might be. You really like the reading. I do. I think that's what my audience loves the,

1:29.0

you know, the extended review of a topic, the deep research, and you bring it. The problem is I get so

1:36.0

into the topic that I'm working on that my monologue is nine tenths of the segment and I have like

1:41.0

four minutes left for the guest. That's okay. And it's like I felt that guilt

1:45.8

originally and our terrific director Jared Buckwood said they don't call it the Matt guest show.

1:50.5

Right. Well that's true. Yeah, that is true. But still, you get someone great like a congressman

1:55.3

to come on and he's there for like four minutes and two questions and it's like, okay, thanks.

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