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What I love playing is when the cracks appear, and that's what always interests me.

You know, he's so occupied, preoccupied with the safety of his family.

That's tantamount.

So everything else must be juggled in order to secure that.

But it makes for an incredibly strenuous juggler.

Music for an incredibly strenuous juggler. Hello and welcome to Slate's TV Club Insider podcast for Season 4 of the Americans,

where today we'll be talking about episode 408, which has the longest title ever,

The Magic of David Copperfield Five, The Statue of Liberty Disappears.

I'm June Thomas, and I've returned once again to gobsmacking Gowanus Brooklyn,

where the show is made, and today our guests include the director of this episode who you may also know as

Philip Jennings, Clark Westafield and many other aliases. That conversation with Matthew

Reese is coming right up but first after last night we just had to speak to Alison Wright

aka Martha. Let's check in with Alison real quick as well as the showrunners Joe Weisberg and Joel Fields.

Alison, it seemed like right up to the end. Martha wasn't sure how things were going to work out.

She was nervous when the car appeared. Like, how confident were you playing it that she, like,

she just knew that she was, everything was going to work out fine.

No, that's not the, that's not the approach I had at all.

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