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The Daily

The American Women Who Joined ISIS

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

They left to join the so-called caliphate and took an oath of allegiance to a terrorist group intent on destroying the West. Now they want to come home. What should the United States do with the American wives of Islamic State fighters? Guest: Rukmini Callimachi, who covers terrorism and the Islamic State for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbarale. This is the Daily.

0:10.0

Today, they left home to join the Caliphate and took an oath of allegiance to a terrorist group

0:18.0

intent on destroying the United States. Now they want to come home.

0:24.0

What should the US do with the American wives of ISIS fighters?

0:32.0

It's Friday, February 22.

0:38.0

Rukmini Kalamaki, tell me about getting to this detention center.

0:44.0

So I've been in Syria at this point for almost three weeks and we woke up early and we drove about two and a half hours to the northeast of the country.

0:53.0

And there there's a sprawling refugee camp where thousands of people are being held in a pseudo detention state.

1:03.0

And we got out and we explained that we're with the New York Times. We had an appointment to come there.

1:08.0

And they asked us to go into a small room where there was a heated furnace and a couple of chairs.

1:14.0

So we waited in this room for more than an hour.

1:19.0

I was starting to get nervous because I was told that the camp closes down at around three and it was I think close to two.

1:26.0

When suddenly I heard a commotion outside and I walked out and I saw two women.

1:32.0

They were wearing the full berk at the full face covering blackmail that is typical of the Islamic State.

1:39.0

But they were speaking fluent English with an American accent because they were American.

1:49.0

So I invited them into the room where I had been sitting. And at that point they flipped back their necops, their face fell.

1:56.0

And I saw that one looked to be in her maybe late 30s or 40s. The other one was clearly a young woman.

2:03.0

And I recognized her face. Her name is Huda Muthana. She's a young woman from Alabama, 24 years old.

2:09.0

She sat down next to me and I turned on my recorder.

2:13.0

Can I switch what you second here her better?

2:15.0

Yeah, thank you so much.

2:17.0

Huda starts her story in 2014. She says that she came from an ultra conservative Muslim family.

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