Hi, I'm Jeff Sickinga, executive director of the Ashbrook Center, and this is the American

idea, where we discuss the ideas, people, and events that have made America what it is today.

We believe that by understanding our history and our principles, we can better

live up to the promise of the American founding and preserve our ongoing experiment in self-government.

Welcome to the American Idea. Well, I want to welcome everyone to this episode of the American idea. Today we're

going to be talking about a contemporary issue, but an issue that is incredibly important for

America historically over the course of our history and into today. And that is the issue of

freedom of speech and the contemporary state of freedom of speech, especially as it applies to important issues dealing with things like social media.

Particularly when he talking about the case of Missouri versus Biden, its continuing status, where it is today, and why it's important for Americans to understand

it and understand its outcome. Our guest today is John Vecione. John is Senior Litigation

Council at the New Civil Liberties Alliance. John has been a practicing attorney in the Washington,

D.C. area at many firms in that area.

Council of record for petitioners in the well-known Loperbright case, and also for individual

respondents in Murthy, B. Missouri.

John, as many of you know, is a widely published author on legal affairs, including

articles in the Wall Street Journal,

The Washington Times, and many other publications. John, thanks for being with us today on the

American idea. It's great to be here. I'll just say I was counseled record on Relentless,

which is part of Loper Bright, but not for the Loper Bright plaintiffs.

Fair enough. I stand corrected. Thank you.

Of course, you've been deeply involved, been deeply involved in the Missouri v. Biden case.

For our listeners who are maybe new to the issue,

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