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Your future self will thank you. And welcome to the American Churchman podcast where we encourage American Churchmen to take dominion,

to take their responsibilities seriously to serve our Lord Jesus Christ, and just to be better all around churchmen.

So today we're going to talk about a growing issue, and I think this is something that is particularly pertinent for our audience,

which is the shortage of pastors,

especially younger pastors coming in the ministry. But before we get to that, this is my co-host.

Everyone knows who's obviously followed the podcast, but Matthew Pearson, Matthew, thanks

for being with me today to talk about this.

Oh, no, I can't hear you, Matthew. I don't know if you're coming through.

No, no, no. I've muted my mic. I'm sorry. How are you doing, John? It's great to be here,

as always. And as you can see from the setup, the lighting's a bit wonky because I just

got moved into my new apartment. So getting married in about a month. And so now we're getting set up. And I'm still kind of trying to balance, okay, where do I want this? Where do I want that? So that may explain the quality for all the, you know, the people on YouTube that watch because. Yeah. So but no quality is actually better than it's been in previous weeks,

because you actually have good internet now. So yeah, yeah, you know, I got a, yeah. So I got the, I got the best one possible. There was like a little promo code thing for it. Like, oh, you could get this for this. And I'm like, shoot, with this podcast, I'm tired of having a, you know, a pixelated camera being a. So yeah, no, we're good now.

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