What's up, Badi Bees? I'm Brianna, mom, wife, serial entrepreneur, and host of the badass basic bitch podcast.

Each week, I sit down with a seemingly ordinary woman who's doing extraordinary things,

and I get to share her story with you. So let's go. Buckle up as we're going to get real and dive into

the shit nobody talks about. Welcome to the Batty B Club. I was reporting a podcast about women's finances, and they would call in and share their

money stories, their secrets, what they were struggling with.

And one woman called in, and she's telling me all about how she was on Instagram,

studying all of the best practices for negotiations.

She'd taken a negotiation course in college.

And yet, when she went and negotiated her salary, not only did she not get what she asked for,

but she had her job offer rescinded for doing so.

Welcome back to another episode of Badass Basic Bitch. On today's episode, we are joined by

Stephanie O'Connell, who's a journalist and author of The Ambition Penalty, a powerful

exploration of how the workplace system encourages women to step up only to penalize them when

they do. Backed by sharp analysis and data,

Stephanie, thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me on. And before we dive in,

why don't you tell our listeners a little bit more about who you are and what you do. Yeah,

so I've been reporting on women in the workplace and specifically their experiences around career and money for over a decade.

And during that time, I heard the things that all of us hear, that women are really struggling to be paid fairly or get ahead or build wealth because they aren't confident enough or assertive or asking for it.

They're not willing to take risk. They have a confidence problem. And as I was reporting,

I just never saw those kinds of myths being demonstrated in the stories that I was hearing.

And I started to look deeper into the research to see, okay, is this just my circle?

Is it just people from a certain background or industry?

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