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industriousness, and speaking of which, we'd really appreciate it if you went to the show

description, today's episode. In the show description, there is a survey that you can take, which is

kind of fun, like one of those personality type survey quiz things.

Let us know who you are. What you're into. We want to know more about who is listening.

Also, if you have pitches for us, our tip line is always open 323-248-14-88. Today, we're talking to a woman who I think spends more time

thinking about work, what it means, what it says about us, its value, than I do, especially

women's work. What is it about us here in North America that urges us to equate output with

our intrinsic worth as humans? And no, she's not wielding an axe all day, but I have no doubt

she'd be an incredible lumberjill in a pinch.

My name is Jennifer Romalini, and I am a writer and a longtime content maker.

You're a content creator before that was a job.

Yeah, well, that was exactly the swerve that fucked us all.

We don't have to curse on this.

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