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Autocracy in America

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Autocracy in America

The Atlantic

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8999 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

How should American power be deployed in the world? Since the Cold War, America’s role as a global leader has been up for debate.  Host Garry Kasparov and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton dissect the state of the neoconservative geopolitical worldview. They consider what the latest iteration of the “America First” foreign-policy rationale signals for democracy worldwide and analyze what it means that the new American right sometimes sounds like the old American left. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/listener. Garry chairs the Renew Democracy Initiative, publisher of The Next Move. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

We've grown up surrounded by beauty ideals that promised confidence, but often delivered shame.

0:05.5

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0:11.3

compliments and body talk shape our self-worth without us realising it. In partnership with the

0:16.9

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0:21.6

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0:28.0

forward slash Y2K.

0:33.7

I would like to begin this episode with two quotes from American presidents.

0:41.3

You might try to guess which presidents they are from.

0:44.3

The first, good leaders do not threaten to quit if things go wrong.

0:49.3

They expect cooperation, of course, and they expect everyone to do his share, but they do not

0:55.0

stop to measure sacrifices with a teaspoon while the fight is on.

0:59.2

We cannot lead the force of freedom from behind.

1:02.8

And the second presidential quote, we must begin by acknowledging the hard truth.

1:07.9

We will not eradicate while in conflict in our lifetimes.

1:12.3

There will be times when nations, acting individually or in concert, will find the use of force not only necessary, but

1:18.5

morally justified. The first was the memorable line about not measuring sacrifice with the

1:24.4

key spoon while the fight is on was spoken by my namesake,

1:28.3

President Harris Truman, in a 1951 address in Philadelphia at the dedication of the chapel

1:33.3

of the four chaplains.

1:35.3

He had brought American troops into combat in Korea, a controversial decision to stand up

1:40.3

to communist aggression only six years after the end of World War II.

1:45.2

The second presidential quote about nations being morally justified to use force is

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