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The Ambassador Who Was Too Honest About Trump

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The intriguing story of a British ambassador’s hasty resignation, and why it perfectly encapsulates our current geopolitical moment. This story has everything: leaked confidential reports, world trade implications, and a reference to the movie The Terminator.

Guest: Slate’s Josh Keating, international editor.


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0:00.0

The British Embassy in Washington, D.C. looks a little bit like a modern-day

0:08.9

Downton Abbey. It's got this impressive brick facade, lots of chimneys.

0:14.2

It is everything you want the British Embassy to be. It's the stately Georgian mansion with fancy art.

0:20.4

And, you know, you expect there to be

0:22.8

corgis running around and butlers and things. Slate's Josh Keating has been inside for the occasional

0:28.3

Christmas party. They're nice parties. There's some kind of like scotch display at the last one I went

0:34.9

to. They did this like special scotch bar set up. And presiding over the

0:38.8

scotch bar was Kim Derrick, who until yesterday was the British ambassador, a career civil

0:45.2

servant. He wasn't exactly known as a firebrand. You know, I've been to a couple like briefings

0:50.4

there. He does kind of, he would do. these sort of off the record roundtables. And,

0:56.3

you know, he never, he was always very respectful and complimentary of the Trump administration,

1:04.5

never even got close to saying anything controversial. And now I know he was saving all his

1:09.2

hot takes for the bosses back in London.

1:13.8

Derek's hot takes could mostly be found in diplomatic cables, confidential cables, cables that leaked

1:22.0

earlier this week. Have you read the cables or what's been reported about what's in them?

1:27.2

Well, I've read the Daily Mail write-up of them, the extremely long daily mail article.

1:33.3

It seems to go on forever.

1:34.8

You know, first of all, this is what a diplomat is supposed to do.

1:38.9

They're supposed to be very polite and deferential and sociable in public.

1:44.5

And then in their cables, they're supposed to give the unvarnished truth to their bosses back in London.

1:51.2

The details in these memos.

1:53.7

The details stung.

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