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The Alarming Findings Inside a Mass Shooter’s Brain

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The New York Times

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4.597.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Warning: this episode contains descriptions of violence and self harm. Last fall, an Army reservist killed 18 people at a bowling alley and restaurant in Lewiston, Maine, before turning the gun on himself. Dave Philipps, who covers military affairs for The Times, had already been investigating the idea that soldiers could be injured just by firing their own weapons. Analyzing the case of the gunman in Lewiston, Dave explains, could change our understanding of the effects of modern warfare on the human brain. Guest: Dave Philipps, who covers war, the military and veterans for The New York Times.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Taverniese, and this is the Daily.

0:07.0

A mass shooting last fall by an army reservist in Maine prompted my colleague

0:16.6

Dave Phillips to search for answers about whether the soldier's service could have

0:21.6

been a factor.

0:23.3

Today, the surprising answer Dave found,

0:27.2

and how it may change our understanding

0:29.5

of the effects of modern warfare on the human brain.

0:37.0

It's Wednesday, March 13th. So Dave you've been working on a series of stories on injuries to soldiers in the

0:49.7

U.S. military and last week there was kind of a sudden and unexpected discovery related to that

0:55.7

reporting you'd been doing.

0:57.1

Tell me about it.

0:58.1

So what I've been looking into for a couple months was the idea that soldiers can be injured just by firing

1:05.0

their own weapons by standing next to the blast of a mortar or launching a rocket

1:11.6

from a shoulder-fired rocket launcher, some of these big heavy weapons.

1:14.8

The blast wave is strong enough to really injure their brains.

1:20.1

And I'd been working on that over a couple of months because it's very new and there's a lot of uncertain stuff and I was still working on it in October when I got a call from the New York Times National Desk and, hey, there's been a mass shooting in Maine.

1:35.0

We need your help.

1:36.2

The suspect was in the military.

1:38.0

So I dropped everything and got on it.

1:40.9

Right, because you're the guy who covers military affairs, so they call you.

1:44.0

Right, and the situation was that there's a 40-year-old man in Maine named Robert Card.

1:50.0

He'd been a Sergeant First Class in the Army Reserves for almost 20 years and he

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