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The Last Invention

The AI Skeptics

The Last Invention

Longview

Documentary, Society & Culture, Technology

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we dive into the views of the people who think the AGI race is being oversold, misunderstood, or misframed. As you’ll hear, we break them down into three distinct camps: “AI Is Grift” (a tech-industry con), “Wrong Path” (LLMs can’t reach AGI without new ideas), and “AI as Normal Technology” (powerful, but adoption will be slow and institution-bound). Through interviews with Ed Zitron, Gary Marcus, and Princeton’s Arvind Narayanan, the episode argues that the real fight isn’t just about capability—it’s about incentives, architecture, and how human systems actually change. FEATURING: Ed Zitron, Gary Marcus, Arvind Narayanan LINKS: ⁠Ed Zitron’s website/podcast Ed Zitron’s newsletter “Where’s Your Ed At” Gary Marcus’s most recent book, “Taming Silicon Valley” Gary Marcus’s Substack Arvind Narayanan’s most recent book, “AI Snake Oil” Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor’s paper “AI As Normal Technology” CREDITS: This episode of The Last Invention was reported and produced by Andy Mills, Matthew Boll, Seth Andrews, Ethan Mannello, and Carmen Hilbert Music for this episode was composed by ⁠⁠⁠Scott Devendorf⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Ben Lanz⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Cobey Bienert⁠⁠⁠, and Matthew Boll The Last Invention artwork by ⁠⁠⁠Jacob Boll⁠⁠⁠ To become a Longview subscriber you can visit us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you to our sponsors Ground News ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GROUND NEWS⁠:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠groundnews.com/invent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get 40% off unlimited access to global coverage of the stories shaping our world. This is a paid sponsorship link Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello again and welcome back to The Last Invention, in our original eight-part series, one of the things that we wanted to make clear was that the people who are racing towards the development of AGI are not thinking of it as simply some new tool or new tech product.

0:17.9

The world, as you know, it is over. It's not about to be over. It's over.

0:23.4

AI is going to be better than almost all humans at almost all things. They believe that the thing

0:29.0

that they are right now making, it wouldn't be a computer program exactly, it wouldn't be a human

0:34.8

exactly. It would be this sort of digital supermind. We'll change the course

0:40.4

of human history. I've always believed that it's going to be the most important invention that

0:45.1

humanity will ever make. And that it's going to do that soon. It would be surprising to them if it took

0:50.8

more than about three years. And because of how high they believe the stakes are, they are engaged right now in what they

0:58.3

think may end up being the most important debate in human history.

1:02.4

The basic description I would give to the current scenario is, if anyone builds it, everyone

1:06.9

dies.

1:07.6

Why is all the worry about the technology going badly wrong?

1:11.6

And why are people not worried enough about it not happening?

1:14.6

Our job now, right now, whether you know you're up someone building it or someone who is

1:20.6

observing people build it or just a person living on this planet because this affects you too,

1:24.6

is to collectively figure out how we unlock this narrow path,

1:28.7

because it is a narrow path we need to navigate.

1:35.0

However, there was a perspective that was missing from our series,

1:41.0

and it's one that many of you listening out there have been writing to us,

1:45.3

requesting that we dive into, and that's the AI skeptic. Right now, there is so much hype

1:53.0

around AI. And because human beings have a pretty bad track record of predicting the future,

2:00.3

naturally, this is going to inspire some deep skepticism.

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