This week on the Andrew Yang podcast.

I recently appeared on Gavin Newsom's podcast,

and we decided to post the conversation here,

as he is the sitting governor of the state of California

and one of the front runners for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2028.

So this is my convo with Governor of California, Gavin Newsom.

So much to talk about. Obviously, all things, AI, what's going on with your new party,

forward party, your new cell phone company, what's going on in the world. We're living 24-7

with autopsies in the Democratic Party and, you know, all kinds of, you know, press conferences

being canceled, including one today on AI from Donald Trump, a new EO that he's about to promote.

I want to get to all of that. But first, I just want to check in on what is going on with, and you've

got the lapel right now, with the forward party?

Where to begin? A forward party is a positive independent political movement that thinks the two-party

system is going to lead us nowhere good. And unfortunately, we're doing great in the sense that

people are increasingly despondent about the direction of the two-party system.

So supporting positive candidates around the country of any party with a special spot in our hearts

for independent candidates like Seth Bodnar, who's running for U.S. Senate in Montana,

Mike Duggan, who's running for governor of Michigan

and other candidates around the country. It being an independent is the fastest growing

clinical affiliation in the U.S. for good reason. And so forward parties are growing all the time.

Well, let's talk about your primary when you ran and your primary focus that continues to this day,

and I appreciate your tenacity on it,

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