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Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt.

Whether you're watching on the Salem News Channel or listening on the Salem Radio Network, welcome, one of our great radio affiliates, a little bit of inside radio baseball. I've done everyday part in radio. I've been in it for 35 years. Morning drive in the East, morning drive in the East, afternoon drive in the West. The hardest thing to do is to do morning drive in the East because you get no

audience from the show before you. So like Gallagher has inherited my audience for the 10 years I did

morning drive. Finally, I've got a person in the hour before I come on the air to give me an audience.

And that guy is Scott Jennings.

I'm here to thank Scott Jennings, who is our Salem media colleague and CNN Wonderkind and the author of this fabulous new book, A Revolution of Common Sense.

Scott, thank you for delivering me an audience every day at 3 o'clock.

I appreciate it.

You, I'm an honor to be on next to you. I'm honored to be a warm-up act for the legend, Hugh Hewitt, and I'm honored by your mentioning my book today. It's great to be with you. Thank you. We're going to talk a lot about a revolution of common sense because I found it to be fascinating on many levels. In fact, I'll start with my favorite line in the book, which comes early. I got lines from throughout the book. To be honest, he used to be, frankly, a little bit

average, but now he's terrific. That's the most Trumpian thing he could say. I've had him say

that to me on about 30 different occasions, though not as flattering as he was to you. I know it was

a real interview when you sat down with the president early in his second term when he says, to be honest, to the people around him, he used to be, frankly, a little bit average, but now he's terrific. How did you react to that, Scott? Oh, I had a good laugh. The president that day in February when I first pitched him on this was in a towel-snapping mood. You know, when you go into the Oval Office and see the president, and I was in there yesterday with him, you know, he insert you immediately into whatever is happening in that moment. And so that early day back in February, I was in there with Rubio and Besson and Lutnik and these guys, and they were talking tariffs, Middle East peace.

They were probably six different meetings going on at the same time, and he just plunged me right into the middle of it. But then, you know, he said, why are you here? And I said, I want to write a book about you. I think a bunch of people are going to write books that are going to be terrible to you and lie about you. and I think somebody who likes you ought to write a book about the real story of how you revolutionize governing, which is exactly what I think he's done.

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