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🗓️ 3 March 2025
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The AI arms race is on, and the stakes couldn’t be higher.
Bankless podcast producer Josh Kale breaks down which players are poised to dominate this next industrial revolution. From the transformative power of AI across industries to the geopolitical and economic implications, we explore the critical dynamics shaping our technological future—and what this means for investors, builders, and society at large.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:25 A New Life Form?
4:23 The AI Rabbithole
11:49 xAI & Grok 3
26:51 Deepseek Breakthrough
28:47 English as a Programming Language
30:19 Open Sourcing LLMs
34:13 Other Models
39:29 Meta AI
44:04 AI Bets
46:27 Elon Musk vs Sam Altman
51:59 Worldcoin
55:48 From OpenAI to AGI
1:03:01 AI Doomerism
1:10:06 Neuralink
1:15:20 AI vs Humans
1:22:08 Frontier Tech
1:24:43 Crypto’s Role
1:28:00 Closing & Disclaimers
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0:00.0 | Just this week, in Frontier Technology, we had Microsoft announced this new quantum computer. |
0:05.5 | Groch came out, and it was the new frontier model that was made in 12 months. |
0:09.9 | There is computation improvements in genetic mutations and gene. |
0:13.8 | There's all these crazy frontiers happening downstream of this new form of intelligence that's happening. |
0:18.1 | It's allowing all this research in these other parallels to happen. |
0:28.4 | David, do you think humans are the bootloader for artificial intelligence, meaning are we |
0:33.0 | the scaffolding that exists to build this next superior form of intelligence after humans. |
0:38.2 | I feel like this is a leading question. I feel like your answer is yes, it absolutely is. |
0:43.9 | My answer is a little complicated, but mostly yes. I definitely believe we are here to build |
0:48.9 | this next crazy form of intelligence. But I'm curious, what do you think? Yeah, let me try and |
0:53.1 | break down your question. |
0:54.6 | So we have biological consciousness. We have biological life. And I think society is like having |
1:01.7 | this big conversation of like what does it mean to have not just artificial intelligence |
1:06.6 | because I think in 2025, we do know that artificial intelligence is like totally possible |
1:13.6 | because you can go to like chatGBT.com and access some form of intelligence. |
1:19.1 | And there's this AI arms race going on where everyone is trying to create this like model, |
1:24.7 | which is highly parallel to some sort of brain, which is like biological human |
1:30.6 | intelligence, not even human intelligence, like just biological intelligence, because animals |
1:35.3 | have it too, like animal brains and human brains are the same tissue. And so we already know that |
1:40.5 | there is like artificial intelligence out there built into like circuits and code and |
1:45.7 | software and it's highly parallel to the knowledge and intelligence that we know of in biology |
1:51.1 | and I think the broader question even more is zoomed out from that is that is there like actual |
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