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RiskReversal Pod

The AI Arms Race: Capital Flows & Billion-Dollar Bluffs with CNBC's Deirdre Bosa + Shannon Murphy of iConnections

RiskReversal Pod

RiskReversal Media

News, Business, Investing, Business News

4.6757 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa discuss recent developments in the tech and AI sectors on the Risk Reversal podcast. Deirdre returns after a three-month maternity leave to a significantly changed market landscape, with the NASDAQ up 14% and the S&P 500 up 10%. The conversation focuses on the rapid growth and potential bubbles in the AI market, including emerging threats from Chinese AI models and the competition between leading tech companies like Nvidia, Google, AMD, and OpenAI. They also explore specific deals, such as Apple's new arrangement with Google to power Siri and Snap's collaboration with Perplexity. The episode touches on the economic impact of AI, the ongoing US-China AI race, and investor sentiments. The upcoming challenges and opportunities in the AI sector, both in the US and China, are considered in-depth, alongside broader market implications. After the break, Dan and Guy are joined by Shannon Murphy, Head of Research at iConnections. Shannon shares her journey from academia to Wall Street, and eventually to iConnections, discussing her unique background in theology and its impact on her approach to behavioral finance. The conversation delves into the iConnections platform, which facilitates connections between asset allocators and capital seekers through innovative technologies, including AI. Shannon provides insights into the significant capital flows observed within the platform, driven by evolving market conditions and strategies. The episode also highlights the platform’s global reach and growing interest in diverse investment opportunities across various regions. Show Notes Deutsche Bank explores hedges for data centre exposure as AI lending booms (FT) —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media

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0:49.6

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1:31.2

Welcome to the Risk Reversal podcast. I am Dan Nathan. I am joined by my good friend, Deer Dobosah, who is back. It's been three months, D. AKA an eternity in the world of tech and AI. Yes, three months. Well, we're going to go over what you miss. So you guys all know, dear, Deird she- I didn't miss anything. Did I? No, nothing. I mean, you know, the NASDAQ's up 14% since you left. The S&P is up 10%. There's been trillions and trillions of dollars, a market kept gained by a handful of stocks. You guys all know, Dee. She is the host of CBC's tech check. She was spending a lot of time with us,

1:28.3

graciously giving us your time before you went on maternity leave.

1:32.2

So it's great to have you back.

1:34.2

And I miss your reports.

1:35.6

So you're going to be doing,

1:36.3

let's just kind of reorient our listeners with,

1:40.3

obviously you do Tech Check throughout the day on CNBC.

1:43.1

You will also be doing what?

1:45.0

My deep dives, which is something that we started about maybe two years ago now, but these

1:50.0

sort of long-form YouTube videos that we thought were pretty wonky but has a really, like,

1:55.0

whole, wide audience.

1:57.0

So if you're interested in where AI is going, that's what we focus on.

2:01.2

We focus on things like China's role, a term called distillation, which is actually really important to know if you think about the race between the U.S. and China.

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