The Age of Impunity with Anand Giridharadas
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
4.7 • 8.4K Ratings
🗓️ 8 March 2023
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by journalist and New York Times Bestselling Author, Anand Giridharadas. They discuss how our current political age may be best titled as “the age of impunity”, how decades of dramatic social change has left Americans morally adrift, and how there hasn’t been a better time in recent history for the pro-democracy movement to reclaim “freedom” and “patriotism”. Plus, why it’s so important to challenge the true intentions of elite do-gooding. If you’d like to connect with The Lincoln Project, send an email to [email protected].
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| 0:00.0 | A gang of three. Before we get started, you could probably tell that I don't have my normal, |
| 0:04.8 | booming baritone. And that's because I've got a bug that won't leave me or the family alone. |
| 0:10.0 | But as we like to say in politics and in showbiz, the show must go on. I hope you enjoy it. |
| 0:16.1 | I'll feel better and I'll be back to my bright sunny voice next time. And now on with the show. |
| 0:21.8 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your stuffy host, Reed Gaillet. Today, I'm joined by |
| 0:35.3 | journalists and New Yorktown's best selling author, Anand Geardadas. Anand has spoken on |
| 0:40.4 | stages around the world, taught narrative journalism at New York University. It is a regular |
| 0:45.0 | on-air political analyst for a Mississippi state. He's a former foreign correspondent and columnist |
| 0:49.6 | for the New York Times and is written for numerous other outlets including New Yorker, |
| 0:54.0 | The Atlantic, Time, and is the publisher of the newsletter The Eek. His latest book, |
| 0:59.4 | The Persuaders at the Frontlines of the Fights for Hearts, Mines and Democracy is available |
| 1:05.6 | wherever find books are sold. Today, he's coming to us from Brooklyn, New York. Anand, |
| 1:10.9 | welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. So I do want to talk about the persuaders. |
| 1:16.3 | I also want to talk about your previous book, Winners Take All, which I thought was fabulous. |
| 1:20.7 | You know, the thing that I found interesting as a thread between the two books and maybe this is |
| 1:28.0 | oversimplifying is the nature of something that we deal with as humanity, as society, as individuals |
| 1:35.5 | every day, which is really power dynamics. And in Winners Take All, you do a really excellent job |
| 1:42.6 | of explaining that like so much of the do-goodrism that comes out of elite America, |
| 1:49.5 | what George Packer in his book called Smart America, people like me, frankly. White, suburban, |
| 1:55.5 | educated, two kids, you know, have some level of, you know, attainment, whatever that is, |
| 2:03.3 | socially and economically. And we like our worlds the way they are. We know that the world |
| 2:10.5 | should be better and that we could probably do something about that. But we'd have to give something |
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