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Witness History

The Aga Khan meets Florence Nightingale

Witness History

BBC

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, History

4.5 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In 1898, the British founder of modern nursing, Florence Nightingale, invited the Muslim leader Aga Khan III around to her London home for tea.

They were two of the most famous figures of the 20th century and their discussion was wide-ranging, touching on faith, healthcare and even Queen Victoria.

The Aga Khan, Sir Sultan Muhammad Shah, spoke to the BBC about the meeting in 1950.

This programme was produced and presented by Rachel Naylor, in collaboration with BBC Archives.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by and curious about the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there.

For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

Recent episodes explore everything from how the Excel spreadsheet was developed, the creation of cartoon rabbit Miffy and how the sound barrier was broken.

We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: the moment Reagan and Gorbachev met in Geneva, Haitian singer Emerante de Pradines’ life and Omar Sharif’s legendary movie entrance in Lawrence of Arabia.

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(Photo: Aga Khan III, June 1924. Credit: MacGregor / Topical Press Agency / Getty Images)

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Today's episode is a bit unusual. I'm taking you back to when two of the most famous people

1:07.0

of the 20th century met, spiritual leader, Agha Khan III, and the British nursing pioneer

1:12.5

Florence Nightingale. My friend in the BBC archive has uncovered an incredible tape about him

1:19.1

talking about this momentous meeting. It's spring 1898 and Florence Nightingale, the founder of modern nursing,

1:30.9

has invited 20-year-old Aga Khan III, a prominent Muslim leader, to tear at her home in London,

1:36.5

as he told the BBC in 1950.

1:41.1

They had a wide-ranging discussion about faith, healthcare and even Queen Victoria.

1:46.8

She was then an invalid and could not move about.

1:51.1

And I found her sitting in her lovely small house of Park Lane.

1:58.4

She had been interested in India, and especially in the conditions of health, in villages for women and children.

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