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Each week we decide who's to blame for historical tragedy.

And each week you tell us if we got it right.

My name is Rebecca Delgado-Smith and this is The Aftermath.

Hey everyone, thanks for tuning into this episode of The Aftermath.

Today we're speaking with Professor Jennifer L. Shaw.

Shaw is a professor emeritus of art history at Sonoma State University.

She's also the author of Exist Otherwise,

the life and work of Claude Cahun, reading Claude Cahun's disavowals, and dream states,

puvide chevignon, modernism and the fantasy of France.

Let's hear what she has to say about the lives and death of Claude Cahun and Marcel Moore.

Professor Shaw, thank you so much for joining us today.

Thank you for having me.

So I would love to start off by getting some backstory on Claude Cahun's early years.

What was Claude's childhood like? Where did she grow up?

Okay, so she was born Lucy Schwab, and she grew up in the city of Nantes in France. Her mother was

Catholic, her father was Jewish, and her father was also the editor of a major Republican newspaper,

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