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They were even saying that if Ilya messed up a couple, he could still make it up in other jumps.

Right.

See, that to me sounds like that's the gamble, and that's part of, I guess, competing the Olympics.

It's not just about like your skill and the kind of like level of difficulty you can do. It's like combine that with what you think you can

accomplish under the pressure of the Olympics and and deliver. And you could either go, I'm going to go super

difficult and have to nail it. Or I'm going to go super difficult and have to nail it.

Or I'm going to like, like this, the guy who won, you're like, no, I'm just going to play it a little safe, you know, safe in quotes.

And do the easier routine and hope that everybody messes up.

And that's how I win.

And I'm sure he was watching him fall like, oh my God, I could actually win this.

Like, what?

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