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So Miley Cyrus and I was just looking this up as a international pop star.

Good.

Oh, you just found that out.

She's an American singer-songwriter.

What are some of her hits, Chris?

Some of her hits include but are not limited to Wrecking Ball, party in the USA,

and most recently Flowers, which became an international hit. I'm a big fan of the first song,

adore you, if you guys recall that song. Can you sing a little for us? It's really hard to sing.

I cannot do that. Can you try? I really don't want to.

Well, I guess I'll never know what it really sounds like.

You couldn't just search it up on the internet.

Only I can sing it.

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Each week, we decide who's to blame for historical tragedy. And each week, you tell us if we got it right. My name is Rebecca Delgado-Smith, and this is The Aftermath.

Hey, everyone, thanks for tuning to this episode of The Aftermath. Today we're speaking with guest

expert Dr. Robert Chase. Professor Chase teaches history at Stony Brook University in Long Island,

New York. His research centers on the ways in which social justice movements, civil rights, and the prisoners' rights movement,

have confronted mass incarceration and the carceral state. He is the author of We Are Not Slaves,

State Violence, Coerce Labor, and Prisoner Rights in Post-War America, and Caging B and carceral states, incarcerations, migration,

detention, and resistance. And just so our listeners are aware, the following episode contains

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