The Aftermath Part 2: The Haves and The Have Nots

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

News, Society & Culture

4.6 • 7.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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At this point in the pandemic, one group of Americans generally gets to show their faces. The other still does not. One group orders groceries from Amazon, while the other packages it. One group enjoys take-out. And the other delivers it in the rain. Today, in part two of my conversation with ProPublica journalist Alec MacGillis, we unpack the ways the pandemic has exacerbated the already enormous divide between the haves and the have nots. MacGillis discusses his recent book, Fulfillment: Winning and Losing in One-Click America, and how Democrats became such a big part of what he calls “the Amazon coalition.” We also talk about how the stubbornness of our political and media class—and their insistence on doubling down on short-sighted policies—is already reshaping our politics and culture. If you haven’t yet listened to part one of the conversation, you can do so here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	At Barclays, we're here for the land of football.
0:06.4	We're here for the Premier League,
0:09.0	and the Barclays Women's Super League.
0:12.1	We're here for the football chance for giving more girls a chance.
0:18.0	We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.
0:27.6	Barclays, here for the land of football.
0:30.5	I'm Barry Weiss and this is honestly.
0:36.0	How are you? I'm Jeff Bezos. And what is your claim to fame?
0:38.0	I'm the founder of Amazon.com.
0:41.0	Where did you get an idea for Amazon?
0:43.0	Over the last two years I've purchased hundreds, maybe thousands of things on Amazon.
0:49.0	What they excel at is getting an object from a creator to a consumer as flawlessly as they can and as quickly as they can.
0:55.6	Paper towels, toilet paper, hand soap, Tupperware, shampoo, hypoallergenic detergent,
0:59.8	allergenic detergent, vitamins, old books, new books, an insta pot that we've never used,
1:04.2	huge quantities of diet dog food, reusable water bottles that I somehow keep losing.
1:08.6	K-N95 masks that are probably fake.
1:11.2	They're watching what's going on on an hourly basis globally.
1:16.0	Amazon can now borrow money for less than the cost of what China can borrow money.
1:21.0	As a result, they're able to throw up more stuff against the wall
1:23.7	than any other firms.
1:25.2	We have a very distinctive approach that we have been honing and refighting and thinking about
1:31.0	for 22 years.
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