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An Erios original. And Ereio's Original. Each week we decide who's to blame for historical tragedy.

And each week you tell us if we got it right.

My name is Rebecca Delgado Smith and this is the aftermath.

Hey everyone, welcome to another aftermath episode with us today our producer Amanda Lund

hello everyone and fact checker christmas when I say after you say math

after I say after.

No.

What Amanda says after I say math.

But then aren't...

Oh wait, I forget how call and repeat happens.

Yes, clearly.

I don't. Like we established in the Black Sox scandal, I don't do sports.

So we'll get it next time, Chris.

So today we are, we have a great interview with Alex Wellerstein

he's a historian of science specializing in history of nuclear weapons and nuclear secrecy.

He's also the author of the nuclear secrecy blog.

It's a really interesting talk that we had.

So let's jump right in. Hi, how are you?

I'm very well. How are you today?

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