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hi there everybody welcome to 2020 the after show i'm deborra rober and boy, we've got a great episode for you today because have you ever just thought, wow, wouldn't life be great if I won the lottery? You might think twice after hearing about our most recent 2020 story about Abraham Shakespeare, the Florida lottery winner who was tragically murdered for his winnings.

Joining me to talk about this is the fabulous Matt Gutman, our chief national correspondent here at ABC News, who reported Friday night's 2020 episode.

Hi, Matt.

Hey, Deb. How are you?

I'm good. Welcome. Welcome. Before we jump into this, I mean, first of all, so many people

know you for just crisscrossing, not just the country, but the world. I mean, from the

wildfires in California, you're in the Middle East a lot reporting over there. Give us a sense

of what it's like, because you are. I mean, I thought I was busy, but man.

You know what's really funny is I had to go back to look at some of the old videos that we did back in like 2012, 2012, 2013.

When I first started doing this story and when we interviewed Dee Dee Dee and Greg Smith, you know, I was much younger.

I was still in my mid-30s and I realized, holy cow, I look so tired because I was crisscrossing the country so much back then.

I'm like, dude, what is wrong with you?

Get some rest, get some sun, boy.

It was actually very interesting.

But yeah, I'm in LA in my little cave office here, so I'm happy to be sedentary right now.

Well, it's good to be able to talk to you and find you some time to sit so we can talk about this.

And I remember, you know, this case of Abraham Shakespeare, you know, long before we obviously got into it.

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