Hello everybody, Deborah Roberts here and welcome to another episode of 2020, the After Show.

Always a pleasure to have you here joining us to explore some of the stories that we have

been working on recently. And today we're going to look into a story that is chilling, literally.

It was an investigation that was sparked by a house fire.

It's smoky. I can't get in the door.

A 911 call that revealed a possible murder and love triangle that shocked Bismarck, North Dakota.

John Cignonas and our 2020 team report on this story in our episode, The Last Strike,

and of course it's available to stream on Disney Plus and Hulu, so you're going to want to see this one.

So much to talk about in this

case, security camera footage documenting the events leading up to the crime. The intense police

interrogation tapes with a Canadian man caught in what turned out to be an apparent affair

with the woman who was at the center of the case. And John's exclusive jailhouse interview with one of those convicted in the murders.

You're going to get some good details now on how the team approached and also brought this story to air.

John Q, hello, sir.

Hi. Thank you for having me.

Always great to see you.

You know, you and I are always traveling in different orbits, so I don't get to have you here in person, but hopefully next time. I miss you. Same here, same here, and I know you're out, you know, working right now. But take us back to this story in North Dakota. And, of course, let's first talk about when we said it's a chilling story, literally. The winter in North Dakota is no joke in Bismarck, right? I mean, in November, in February, the heart of winter? Yeah, I grew up in South Texas. And man, this was bitterly, bitterly cold, absolutely freezing. It was 20 below when we started shooting. And we had to film a lot of it outdoors. John, we send you to the best places, by the way. You noticed that, right? Yes. In December. In December. I had rented a car, and I remember I was slipping and sliding all over the place in Bismarck, North Dakota. The days are short there. The nights are terribly long. It's dark all the time. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know exactly what that's like. I mean, standing out there in the longest time for the cold. People don't think about that part of when we are doing these stories, of us having to collect these stories and go through the elements. You, and when we talk about some of the things that we do in these stories, and I did a story

once where I went to a bowling alley and interviewed someone. You actually went to a bowling

alley in this particular... And bold. And did you throw a strike? Did you do well?

Of course! My first roll of the ball, it was a strike. I'm much better at bowling, by the way, than I thought.

Honestly, people were cheering inside the bowling alley. And we went there because that's where

part of the story took place. But it was pretty amazing. I pulled a strike right away.

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