Hello everybody, Deborah Roberts here and welcome to 2020 The After Show. Always great to have you all with us.

And today we're going to do a little bit of a special podcast. We're going to turn things around a little bit.

Often we are reflecting on a story we just ran. but today we're going to round up some of the big

stories, big crime stories that we have covered over the last year. And I don't have to tell

any of you that one of the biggest was the shocking Sean Diddy Combs case that so many people

were following like bit by bit every day. And then we're going to also talk about the Karen

Reid trial,

Luigi Mangione case, this young kid who was accused of murdering an insurance executive,

so much to talk about and so much also not only just inside the courtroom, but kind of behind

the scenes. And that's what we'd like to do on this podcast. So joining us to pull back the curtain

a little bit on some of these cases is our ABC News

chief investigative reporter, Aaron Kutterski, who has been on the front lines of all of these

stories.

And Aaron, you're taking a break from court today or wherever you're dispatched to join.

But you and I always pass each other in the hallways, and I'm always thinking,

Aaron, I need to ask you. I need to find out the scoop on this story because from DOJ, the

Justice Department in our country and the Trump administration, to Diddy, to Karen Reed,

to all these cases, you cover so many of them. And I want to talk first about just you because I think you and I met and you've been here at ABC News for a long time. You kind of cut your teeth, I guess, in radio because that's when I met you. You were, I think we were covering the Royals and you were there doing radio. And we never really had a chance to chat that much. So tell us a little bit about your background. It's so nice. Hi. Hi. I started in radio, but court is my favorite place to be. Yeah. I guess the Royals is all right too. You can't, you can't argue with the Royals, just for something different. Yeah, the scenery is good. Yeah. But court is, is a happy place, even though for very many it is not a happy place.

But for me, it's its own world. It's its own community. It has its own characters, its own

dramas, its own histories. And that's what makes it interesting because all of that gets renewed every single

time. And you see a lot of these same people from the bailiffs to some of the investigators,

to the reporters, to I'm sure sometimes some of the same judges you've seen over and over again.

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