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Hi there, everybody.

Deborah Roberts here, and welcome to 2020, the After Show. Today we are going to be taking you to the suburbs of Denver, Colorado, to the scene of just a chilling crime. A mom of three found dead in her garage, fatally stabbed. And at first, it seemed like the killer was somebody that they knew, an old flame of hers from decades ago, but he turned out actually to be much closer to home.

This is a story that I reported on, and I still think about it. It was featured on our most recent episode called He's Right Behind You.

It was a case that actually spanned a few years, and one of our producers, Jonathan Balthasor, was all over this story.

Hey, John.

Hi, Deborah.

And our editor, Rob Ferrari, who I never see outside the edit room.

Always sitting in a dark room.

But, Rob, you're here.

And thank you for coming to talk about the program,

because what's so fun about this podcast

or interesting about this podcast

is we get a chance to kind of loosen up a little bit

and bring the listeners and our viewers of 2020

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