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Hi there, everybody.

It's Deborah Roberts.

And welcome to 2020, the After Show.

Today, we're going to talk a little bit more about the mom who became a

warrior to find her daughter's killer. I reported on this story on Friday night's edition of 2020.

Joan Barry, whose daughter, Jana, was stabbed to death when she was a 21-year-old student at

UT, the University of Tennessee. There was no suspect and no arrest for years,

and Joan just became consumed by this whole thought of who could do something like this,

so vicious to her daughter and what laws needed to change to make it a little easier to solve

these kinds of crimes. So today we're going to dig into it.

And joining me is my colleague, my friend, Blue Browning. Hey, Blue.

Hey, it's so great to be with you, Deborah. Oh, good to be with you. And you really are a

partner in crime when we come to these stories, because you and I have worked on a lot together.

This story was actually somewhere you lived. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

University of Tennessee, I didn't go to school there, but I worked in Knoxville, and I was so

familiar with that area.

But how did you wind up thinking about this story and thinking it would work for 2020?

Well, it definitely was Joan and how passionate she was.

I saw an interview that she did, and I saw the anguish in her voice,

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