Hi there, everybody. Welcome to 2020 The After Show. I'm Deborah Roberts, and today we got a special

series to explore 2020's limited series Bad Romance. It recently returned for its second season Tuesday

nights on ABC through May 13th. Now, as you can probably guess from the title,

these are stories of people who have lost their lives at the hands of those who they thought

would love them forever. We're going to look at the consequences of obsession, manipulation,

and take a look at the dark side of love. And joining me to discuss this

combustible mix of love and true crime is ABC News contributor and my friend Ryan Smith. Hi, Ryan.

Deborah, it's so good to talk to you. Good to talk to you. I had to resist the urge to say,

and joining me as somebody who can talk about

obsessive, you know, whatever in life, because that's not quite the case, but you are, of course,

obsessed with 2020 and a lot of these stories. You and I have worked on a lot of them together.

It's great to see it, and I'm glad we can talk about this. Yeah, me too. Well, you know, at the heart of these stories, and we, you know, we see a lot of overlap in these

stories. So clearly we had enough, sadly, I guess you could say, to put them all together

and sort of look at them, you know, through a bigger lens in this series called Bad Romance.

And one of the things to me that is so compelling in these love relationships is that, you know,

at the root of it, as we said, there's

often obsession, things that have gone wrong, and people who just either snap or just do the

unthinkable. Why do you think people are so fascinated by these stories? It's because of love.

And I know that sounds trite for some people, but love is just this basic human emotion that we

all want to feel. And when we feel it, Deborah, it can make us do things that are unexpected and that

make us go beyond what we would normally do. I can't tell you how many people who watch bad romance,

they stopped me on the street and say, oh, I saw this show you guys did on

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