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The Mother Jones Podcast

The Afghan Refugee Crisis Has Only Just Begun

The Mother Jones Podcast

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🗓️ 18 August 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Towards the end of 2020, Mother Jones’s editorial director Ian Gordon wrote a deeply reported story about how then-President Donald Trump took a broken asylum system and turned it into a machine of unchecked cruelty. America’s system for processing refugees and asylum seekers was effectively dead, he discovered, and the myth of national decency died with it.

That the United States had long-standing commitments to asylum seekers under federal law and international agreements was of little consequence to Trump and his coterie of immigration hardliners. Even less compelling to them was the role asylum plays in the aspirational story of America that we have been telling the world for decades: that, in a country of immigrants, ensuring the safety of those fleeing repression and violence is our duty, and by welcoming them—by doing the right thing—the United States both fulfills its promise and distinguishes itself from all other nations.

Since Mother Jones published that story in the November/December issue of our magazine, there’s been an election and the problem is now Joe Biden’s to fix. But the clean-up job just got so much harder.

The government in Afghanistan has fallen after 20-plus years of US-led war, and its collapse and subsequent chaos has only underscored the United States’ deep moral obligation to allow refugees to settle here. But when, or if, they are finally allowed to begin this journey, they will encounter a system that has been politicized to the point of collapse.

Ian’s story is especially relevant now, as the US meets one moral failing with another. So we’re presenting it in full as part of our Summer investigation series, co-produced by our partners at Audm. Make sure you stay to the end for a recent update to Ian’s reporting.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Ian Gordon, editorial director at Mother Jones, here to introduce you to

0:06.0

this week's Summer Investigation on the Mother Jones Podcast.

0:10.6

At the end of last year, I wrote a deeply reported story about how Donald Trump took a broken

0:14.9

asylum system and turned it into a machine of unchecked cruelty.

0:19.2

Since I published that story, there's a new president, and now it's on Joe Biden to fix,

0:24.2

and the cleanup job just got so much harder.

0:27.3

Because the Taliban move into Kabul, western countries are moving out.

0:31.0

America's system for processing refugees and asylum seekers is about to face one of its

0:35.8

biggest recent challenges.

0:38.1

The government in Afghanistan has fallen after 20 plus years of war.

0:42.3

You've no doubt seen the images of desperate Afghans trying to flee the Kabul airport.

0:52.1

The events of the past few weeks have only underscored the United States' deep moral

0:56.1

obligation to allow these refugees to settle here, but they will encounter a system that

1:00.8

is cruel in its deep brokenness, and politicized to the point of collapse.

1:05.7

So today, you'll be listening to my investigation, published in the November December issue of Mother

1:10.2

Jones magazine.

1:11.2

I think it's pretty relevant, especially as the US meets one moral failing, with another.

1:16.4

I'll come back right at the end to give you a quick update to my story.

1:20.5

Really hope you can stick around.

1:26.6

Presents

1:28.6

Our country is full, written by In Gordon.

1:37.8

You need a story, that's what they say anyway.

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