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Rational Security

The “Active Listening Noises” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett to go over the week’s big national security news, including:

  • “Does NSM Stand for No Such Memo?” Last week, in a long-awaited report required by National Security Memorandum 20 that President Biden issued earlier this year, the Biden administration concluded that there were credible reasons to believe that Israel may well have violated international law and obstructed U.S.-backed humanitarian flows in its conduct of the war in Gaza. But it still declined to find Israeli assurances to the contrary lacking in credibility enough to interrupt U.S. security assistance. What does this tell us about the state of U.S. support for Israel—especially as Israeli forces appear increasingly set to pursue an offensive on Rafah that Biden has openly opposed?
  • “What to Expect When You’re Not Expecting.” A sharp global decline in birth rates—often below replacement levels, especially (but not exclusively) in highly developed countries—has some academics and policymakers panicking about everything from the global balance of power to the future of social support systems. But are these concerns misplaced? And how (if at all) should we be thinking about the relationship between national security and family planning?
  • “AzerbaiSCAM.” The Justice Department has indicted a second Democratic legislator—Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas—for working as an unregistered agent of a foreign government, this time that of Azerbaijan, even as a federal court in New York seats a jury for the prosecution of Sen. Bob Menendez for allegedly doing the same on behalf of Egypt and Qatar. Is this reflective of a broader problematic trend? And what should policymakers be doing about it?

For object lessons, Alan lamented the passing of great Canadian Alice Munro. Quinta celebrated the semi-resolution of a long-running mystery involving Prague. Scott renewed his call for people to grill more pizza this summer and shared some tips before handing the mic to producer Noam, who shared that he’s performing at the DC Improv on May 23. And Natalie reminisced fondly (?) on her time living in New York

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0:13.0

So guys I have been over my family leave doing something I don't normally do and that's listening to a lot of the daily because my wife is a committed daily listener of the daily or is I only pop in and out occasionally. I've noticed something they do that maybe the secret to their success I think we should steal.

0:17.0

Is it the intro where he goes, I'm Michael Barbero.

0:21.0

Michael Barbero.

0:22.0

The way he says Barbara.

0:24.0

Exactly. Exactly. Yes, I do love that.

0:26.0

I find that incredibly charming and I cannot replicate it.

0:28.0

I think it's great.

0:29.0

I think it's fabulous.

0:30.0

No, it's not that.

0:31.0

It's the active listening noises.

0:32.0

Have you guys listened to this? It is wild.

0:33.7

They had a whole episode of the Daily. Maybe it wasn't a whole episode. They had a comment in an early episode of the Daily that was about

0:40.2

whether or not Michael Barbara was aware of the fact

0:43.2

that he did that.

0:44.4

And they came on to tell us that, yes, he was aware

0:47.7

and he did it on purpose.

0:49.6

Mmm, I am aware.

0:50.9

Ah, I think it is, because because the thing it's not just barbero it is all of them all

0:57.3

every time they have a guest toast they do the exact same thing and they're all

0:59.7

trying to like a level set to his tempo but they've all got this mhm mhm mhm a I think this is it

1:08.1

this is how we show we communicate interest to the audience is just by inserting these weird mones over each other's comments.

1:15.0

But wait, but Scott, how will you multitask and do other things while pretending to listen

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