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In The Thick

The Abuse of Migrant Workers

In The Thick

Futuro Media

News, Politics

4.91.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Maria and Julio discuss President Biden’s reelection bid, the departures of Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon, and the latest on Uvalde. Then in our roundtable, guest host Fernanda Santos steps in to lead a discussion with Fernanda Echavarri, senior producer for Futuro Studios, and Tina Vasquez, editor-at-large for Prism, about their explosive two-part investigation, “Head Down,” which examines the abuse of migrant workers under the H-2A visa program.

You can listen to the “Head Down” investigation here.

ITT Staff Picks:

  • “Finding someone willing to spread manufactured white fury for an hour every weeknight on Fox won’t be difficult,” writes Renée Graham, in her analysis of Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News, for The Boston Globe.

  • “He was, in his way, a people person. He understood how to reach, teach and challenge them, how to keep them honest, how to dedicate his fame to a politics of accountability, more tenaciously than any star of the civil rights era or in its wake,” writes Wesley Morris on the legacy of Harry Belafonte, for the New York Times.

  • Tina Vasquez discusses the abuse of migrant workers uncovered by the “Head Down” investigation through the stories of Diego and Mario, two H-2A workers from Mexico, in this article for Prism.


Photo credit: Fernanda Echavarri

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Futuro Media and PRX, it's in the thick. What's up? What's up? What's up? This is a podcast about politics, race and culture. I'm so happy to be here and my name is Mariano Hosa.

0:19.0

I'm sorry, I'm Hulio Riccaloare. I'm sorry. I'm Hulio Riccaloare. I just came from Spain.

0:26.0

We like it when you speak in Spanish.

0:29.0

Let's go.

0:31.0

In fact, that's where I'm going to be next week. I'll be in Puerto Rico.

0:37.0

Alright, let's get to a little bit of what's happening this week. So dear listener, we are going to be talking about 2024 more in depth.

0:46.0

We have to mention the news on Tuesday that President Joe Biden is officially running for reelection. And so it's real. I mean, I think it was inevitable.

0:58.0

Hulio, I think that there's reasoning why they would say we have to keep him. It's not like his numbers are tanking or anything, but those of us who expect more want more from our democracy really wanted him to be a much more significant leader. It's a safe choice.

1:15.0

Yeah, good middle manager, you know, competent, solid, but you know, I'm intrigued by the fact that Julie Chavez throw the ideas is going to be his campaign manager.

1:24.0

Say sorry, Chavez's granddaughter.

1:26.0

Well, you know what?

1:28.0

The thing is is that what we really want to know is that someone like Julie is really going to be calling the shots.

1:36.0

That is my big question.

1:38.0

That her position is not a position in name only, but that the power is given to her.

1:45.0

Exactly.

1:46.0

Now, I don't think it's about being a megalomaniac and holding onto power. But if you understand that Latinos, Latina, Latine, Latinex are the second largest voting cohort in the United States, you would want somebody who understands how to reach those voters in a position of power.

2:04.0

But that is more, it's easier said than done because it means that there's a whole conversation about policy and outreach.

2:10.0

So, you know, I'd like to say, okay, congratulations.

2:14.0

Pero hasta no ver no creer.

2:16.0

Being a campaign manager is a big deal.

2:18.0

It leads to other bigger things.

2:20.0

And I agree with you.

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