Let's go to Brian in Jacksonville.

Hello, Brian.

I was in a social setting recently with a friend of ours who is really exploring the Catholic Church.

And in the midst of the conversation, a former Catholic, now said he was a former Catholic, he and his wife had left.

And when this other person, why'd you leave?

And he brought up the sex scandal.

Of course, I said, well, look, there's no question that were bad priests. And, you know, the church is like

Noah's Ark. It's smelly. It's full of manure. But it's the boat to salvation that God gave us.

And the church that Christ gave us is the boat to salvation. And so it didn't satisfy them. And I just

didn't feel like I had a good answer and would love to know, from your perspective, what would be a

great response to that that is charitable, but also effective in maybe bringing them a back or just

explaining what happened. I don't know. I just, I've had a loss for words. No, I can understand

why. And I share your concern because obviously, you know, if you want to

help somebody, it's important to be able to say something that would be meaningful to them.

Sometimes it's hard in the moment to know what to do. Let me share with you how I put it.

I put it in the first part of my book called YB Catholic, and I actually start with the

abuse crisis.

So let me just share with you a little bit from that book what I say.

I say, the Catholic Church is a lot like Noah's Ark, immense and capacious.

It is also ungainly and lumbering, not built for speed, but for endurance.

It causes everyone to stop and

stare. Some scoff thinking it bizarre or comical. Others find themselves drawn to it, longing to get

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