Hi everyone, I'm Kristen Hawkins.

Welcome to this episode of the explicitly pro-life podcast.

As you know, we are talking about abortion crimes this season.

As we know, every abortion is a crime, but we need to talk about what happens within the abortion industry

because it's really, as we've discovered this season, isn't really being talked about. So joining me today is a very special friend.

I've known her for a number of years, Carol Novelli.

Carol is the research fellow at Live Action.

You've probably read, if you've been in the pro-life movement at all, you've probably read something that Carol has researched or written in the past few years.

She's been in the

movement for a while. She first got involved as a teenager ministering to women outside of abortion

facilities. She worked with Mark Crutcher over at Life Dynamics, investigating how the Planned

Parenthood and the rest of the abortion industry covers up child sex abuse. She was instrumental in the research for the

documentary Moafa 21, which showed the racist roots of the abortion industry. And currently,

she has been working with live action and researching the foundations, the very beginnings of the chemical abortion pill.

And that is what I've asked you on to talk about today, Carol.

Thanks for joining me. It is a pleasure to be here.

It is a pleasure to be here. Thanks for asking me.

Yeah, you are, I would say, when we talk about, you know, uncovering what happens

and how we've gotten to this point with chemical abortion, your name comes up a lot in discussion

because everyone just goes, yep, Carol's the expert. You have to talk to Carol.

So how did you, before we get into some of the what's going on, how did you first get turned on to

we have a problem and it's chemical abortion and we need to start looking into this?

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