The Abortion Pill on SCOTUS’s Shadow Docket (with Mary Ziegler)

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🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Will the Supreme Court restrict access to abortion pills nationwide? On this week’s Insider podcast, UC Davis law professor and reproductive rights expert Mary Ziegler joins Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance to break down the case challenging telehealth access to Mifepristone, and what it means for the future of abortion care in the United States. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals’ recent ruling preventing ICE from detaining undocumented immigrants without bond hearings. This segment is available for free to listeners of Stay Tuned. To hear the full episode, become a member at cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. You’ll also get access to other exclusive content. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Join Preet Bharara and Barb McQuade live at the 92NY on May 31st: cafe.com/barb Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, Preet here.
0:03.1	Joyce Vance and I are out with a new episode of The Insider Podcast.
0:06.6	This week, we break down the ongoing legal dispute over Miffa Pristone, the abortion
0:11.0	pill that's once again making the headlines.
0:13.5	Joining us to discuss is Mary Ziegler.
0:16.0	She's a law professor at UC Davis and an expert on the law and politics of reproductive
0:20.5	rights.
0:21.4	Then, Preet and I discuss a recent judicial opinion on ICE detainments.
0:25.8	Listen to the full conversation now in the Insider feed.
0:29.0	And if you're not yet a member, we hope you'll join our community to help support our work
0:32.8	and get access to exclusive subscriber benefits.
0:35.6	Head to cafe.com slash insider or stay tuned.substag.com.
0:41.4	Now, enjoy a free excerpt from our conversation.
0:46.1	So can we focus in on the Louisiana case that's currently sitting on the court's shadow docket?
0:53.5	Walk us through the process that gets
0:55.7	the case to the Fifth Circuit, the action that they took, and now what the issues are as it sits
1:02.5	in front of the Supreme Court. Right. So Louisiana was one of the states trying to block access to
1:08.6	Mithiphrastone. So Louisiana and a woman named Rosalie Markovich
1:12.1	had filed this suit, arguing in particular that the FDA didn't have the authority in 2023 to
1:18.4	permit telehealth access to Miphypristone. And they, after a hearing in a district court in
1:24.2	Louisiana, the district court said essentially, I think that Louisiana is probably
1:29.1	right here and that the FDA probably didn't, in my view, do a good enough job reviewing the
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