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Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders

The Abortion Episode

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders

Vulture & New York Magazine

Entertainment News, Tv & Film, News, Society & Culture

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Does seeing abortion on TV and film change the way people feel about it? You could argue that another big social issue — gay marriage — was helped by shows like Will & Grace and Ellen. Or that The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Murphy Brown helped normalize the idea of women in the workplace. Ahead of the midterms, Sam is wondering why more depictions of abortion onscreen haven't moved the needle on public opinion or access to abortion itself. Sam chats with Katori Hall about writing an abortion episode for her show P-Valley, which was based on the women's health organization at the heart of the case that overturned Roe v. Wade. Then, he talks with social scientist Steph Herold about the things onscreen abortions get wrong and the limits of representation. Send us your culturegeist. What specific thing in the culture has haunted you for days, weeks, or even years? Email us a short voice memo at intoit@vulture.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for this show comes from Kraken.

0:03.0

Crypto is like the financial system, but different.

0:07.0

It doesn't care where you come from,

0:09.0

what you look like, your credit score,

0:11.0

or your outrageous food delivery habits.

0:14.0

Crypto is finance for everyone,

0:16.0

everywhere, all the time.

0:18.0

Kraken, see what crypto can be.

0:21.0

Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:24.0

This is a high-risk investment

0:26.0

and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.

0:30.0

Hey, I'm Sam Sanders and you're listening to Intuit from Vulture.

0:34.0

So, growing up, I used to think that TV and movies

0:38.0

were very closely linked to societal change.

0:41.0

Especially TV.

0:43.0

I thought that seeing more Black people on TV, more integration,

0:47.0

I thought that would make society treat Black people better,

0:51.0

maybe even pass more civil rights legislation.

0:55.0

I thought seeing working women or single moms on TV

1:04.0

would make society better for all women.

1:12.0

Saying with trans visibility or seeing disabled people on screen,

1:16.0

or seeing queer love.

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