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🗓️ 2 October 2023
⏱️ 28 minutes
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A former assistant who travelled with The Abercrombie Guys agrees to talk: "They were trying to act so perfect,” he says - what could they have been hiding?”
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World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte Senior Producer: Emma Close Development Producer: Hannah Livingston Investigation Editor: Ed Campbell Podcast Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Executive Editor: Emma Rippon Studio Engineers: Neil Churchill, Andy Fell, Gareth Jones, and Ali Rezakhani Production Coordinators: Debbie Richford and Sophie Hill Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Executive: Louise Kattenhorn Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Panorama. If you are in the UK, you can watch Panorama: The Abercrombie Guys: The Dark Side of Cool on BBC iPlayer now, or on BBC Select if you are in the in the US. World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is a BBC Long Form Audio production for BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sounds.
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0:46.0 | Rooly? |
0:47.0 | Take two, Mark. Ready? It's been almost two and a half years since my first phone call with Barrett Paul. The call that sparked this entire |
1:05.8 | investigation. When we hung up I had no idea where this was going to lead, but I've slowly been connecting the dots. |
1:15.0 | The scale of this operation is bigger than I think I understand still. |
1:20.0 | It's part of a well-oiled machine. |
1:22.0 | Mike Jeffries is at the center of as a pyramid, |
1:26.4 | which means that there's a base that's holding it up. |
1:30.4 | It was Barrett who first led me to unearth a paper trail of evidence of what appears to be a slick operation run for the Abercrombie guys. |
1:39.0 | It says, you know, Barrett clearly addressed to me. |
1:42.0 | Thanks for being able to come for the event. you know Barrett clearly addressed to me. |
1:42.8 | Thanks for being able to come for the event on Saturday, |
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