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World Of Secrets

The Abercrombie Guys: 1. Silenced

World Of Secrets

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7765 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Sometimes it only takes one person to speak, for others to be heard… An aspiring male model hopes a meeting with Abercrombie and Fitch’s former CEO could be a career break. But it is far from a dream opportunity. “It's probably the darkest experience I’ve ever dealt with,” he says. After reading a cryptic tweet, Rianna Croxford follows a trail which leads to the most intensive investigation of her career. MeToo has empowered women to speak out – now men say they want to be heard. This is World of Secrets - Season 1: The Abercrombie Guys, an investigation from BBC 5 Live and Panorama. Have you got a story to tell? Email [email protected]. Let us know what you think of the season using the hashtag #WorldofSecrets

This podcast refers to sexual abuse and contains interviews that some listeners may find upsetting, as well as some occasional strong language. If you've been affected by any of the issues in this series, please contact support organisations in your own country. For a list of organisations in the UK that can provide support for survivors of sexual abuse, go to bbc.co.uk/actionline.

World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte Senior Producer: Emma Close Development Producer: Hannah Livingston Investigation Editor: Ed Campbell Podcast Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Executive Editor: Emma Rippon Studio Engineers: Neil Churchill, Andy Fell, Gareth Jones, and Ali Rezakhani Production Coordinators: Debbie Richford and Sophie Hill Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Executive: Louise Kattenhorn Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson

Archive: Paramount Pictures: Mean Girls (2004) This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Panorama. If you are in the UK, you can watch Panorama: The Abercrombie Guys: The Dark Side of Cool on BBC iPlayer now, or on BBC Select if you are in the in the US. World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is a BBC Long Form Audio production for BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and maybe it's when I had a hand in.

0:04.0

I'm Tammy Walker and I produce podcasts for the BBC.

0:08.0

My role is to give new and diverse creators a voice with the opportunity to build a career.

0:12.0

That's the thing I love about podcasts.

0:14.4

You start with just a good idea, but then you have the space to see where it goes.

0:18.4

And doing that at the BBC means we can really run with the best stories

0:21.9

while developing the most unique audio talent.

0:24.8

So if you like what you hear, why not check out the huge range of podcast we've got on BBC Sounds.

0:31.6

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:35.0

Hi, thanks for listening to World of Secrets.

0:38.0

I'm Riana Croxford, and before we start,

0:41.0

I wanted to let you know that this episode contains references to sex and sexual violence.

0:49.0

Models are actively the ones that are pushed into this and you're being like thrown around like this

0:55.6

piece of meat and that's literally how I felt the whole time like a piece of meat in

1:00.4

the most dehumanizing way.

1:04.0

Sometimes it only takes one person to speak for others to be heard.

1:09.0

I don't know if that's how every man that has gone through that experience feels,

1:12.0

but that world has eaten up and spit out a lot of young and

1:17.3

attractive guys, gay, straight and everything in between.

1:20.5

But that first step can feel frightening when every instinct is telling you to stay silent.

1:26.0

This is one of those experiences that I also blacked out for a very long time and never thought I would talk about.

1:31.0

I've been investigating one of fashion's darkest secrets.

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