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Rational Security

The "A Rabbi, the Pope, and an Argentinian Lawyer Walk Into a Bar" Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

This week, Scott sat down with his Lawfare colleagues Benjamin Wittes, Anastasiia Lapatina, and Eugenia Lostri to try to make sense of the week’s biggest national security news stories, including:

  • “Kursked.” This week, even as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rolls out his “Victory Plan” to Western allies, Russian forces have made progress reclaiming what some have described as a key part of that plan: the region of Kursk within Russia, which Ukrainian forces seized earlier this year. How central is Kursk to Zelensky’s vision for how to end the conflict? And how will Russia’s apparent progress impact his plans?
  • “The Waiting Game.” The world remains on the edge of its seat, waiting to see how Israel will pursue its promised response against Iran for the volley of missiles the latter launched against it earlier this month. What sort of response does Israel seem to have in store? And what role will the United States be playing?
  • “Tap Tap Tapping.” A coalition of China-associated hackers called “Salt Typhoon” is believed to have hacked the system used by telecommunications companies to comply with U.S. legal warrants. How big a deal is this? And what might its implications be for the United States surveillance system writ large?

For object lessons, Ben shared his electronic composition “Trump Portrait (with apologies to both Aaron Copeland and Abraham Lincoln). Nastya recommended “The Road to Unfreedom,” by Timothy Snyder, as an essential portrait of the road to Russia’s brutality. Scott sang the praises of the Slate podcast “One Year,” especially for those seeking informative and (mostly) family-friendly podcast fare. And Eugenia endorsed the series “Nobody Wants This,” the most grounded and realistic rabbi-meets-sex podcaster romcom you’ve ever seen.



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I can't believe this thing is 90 minutes like I'm sorry but that's way too long for any

0:37.9

podcast it didn't used to be not when back in the old days during rational security 1.0 you know we used to go 50

0:47.2

55 minutes but then Scott took it over and it metastasized like a cancer spreading over somebody's liver.

0:55.4

That's terrible.

0:56.4

I kind of like it.

0:58.4

Yeah, it's based on Rome.

1:00.0

Yeah, you don't get enough time to talk about three issues in 50 minutes.

1:05.0

Sure, it's just that, as I've brought up in various meetings, guys, I'm not a lawyer, so whenever you talk

1:11.6

about something legal, which is most times I just

1:14.9

tune out because I don't understand like 70% of the words you're even saying so I'm

1:18.8

just there listening to like I'm not a lawyer either.

1:23.0

And we tune Ben out anyway.

1:25.0

And Scott went to Yale law school, so he's only sort of a lawyer.

1:29.0

And Eugenia is an Argentinian lawyer.

1:32.0

So, what?

1:33.9

That doesn't make her a lawyer?

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